Audio what sequence to read ethnogenesis. The main participants in the high-profile scandal surrounding the literary series "Ethnogenesis" clarified their positions
Polina Voloshina! Evgeny Kulkov! It would be better for you to go pasture oxen and sew bags, for it is contraindicated for you to write books.
And in general, if humanity is not indifferent to the future generation, then this book should be exhibited in the section “Marriage of the fourth grade. Sale at the price of unedged slab.
The language is primitive, painfully and clumsily drawn to the "modern youth" (according to the authors' understanding). But what can we say about this, because they do not have enough elementary knowledge to compose something realistically, not to mention describing something complex.
By the way, authors! Surely you picked up impressions about mammoths from the crazy movie "10,000 BC." So. Today, scientists have already said - mammoths were not too big. Taller than elephants, with a short body. In mass, they did not differ much from their African contemporaries. At least not even twice. No, Marusya is standing, looking at a bunch of Mr. ... on, and thinking: “Who could have “heaped” so much? And to come to mind that a bunch of one and a half meters high geeks could easily throw a shovel, she could not!
To some strange attraction to describe the details of Marusya's clothes - taking off and putting on panties is alarming. And this Marusya also undresses too often, and these descriptions appear without justified reason.
The authors' ideas about the future have stopped at the level of science fiction writers of the 50-60s, and the style of description is the same. And what kind of nonsense - in 2020, people go into shock at the sight of a “real, paper book”? Does the professor have some kind of thing in his hands, it seems to be called a “mobile phone”? What fabulous stupidity!
But books are not enough for authors! I am sure that they themselves (or, perhaps, a bought person) are sitting on the Internet on different sites, and scribbling reviews of the book with the same (as it seems to them, zombifying) phrases: “I look forward to continuing!”, “I read in one breath!”, etc.
Children would be better thought. They are all g... but they will read it and think that it is “cool”, because it is in a beautiful wrapper, and is promoted. This is what makes the book "Marusya" harmful.
Rating: no
Rave. Most infuriating after reading Marusya is watching review videos on rasha.ru, where in each issue (obviously paid), the project is praised along with high-quality literature and the cycle is presented as something revolutionary. :mad:
Rating: no
No matter what anyone says, it's a great project. But precisely as a project of entertaining fantasy literature. Yes, in these books you can find ideas, thoughts, and much more interesting things, but you should not treat it as if it is something grandiose with a literary significance of a planetary scope. Of course, comparing Marusya with Alice is at least offensive to Kir Bulychev and everyone who grew up on his books, and the wording "our answer to Harry Potter" is very optimistic, but still too pretentious. However, this is the whole hitch, it should not be compared with something, since this project itself is quite good without any analogies. And the idea of a literary series is also quite interesting, especially if it is multiplied by the quality work of writers.
If you do not like fantasy literature, then you should not take on the project. Personally, I have mastered about a third of all the published works and I will tell you that such inclusiveness inspires respect. Here you can find books about: about the war, about pirates, about the post-apocalypse, about financial tycoons, about futuristic adventures, about space, and in general, about anything. And all this is united by one global idea.
Personally, I am completely delighted with all the books covered by me. True, there is one caveat - I did not read them. Yes, yes, I didn’t read it - I listened to them. The audio versions of the books are simply amazing. How many different audiobooks I have not listened to, but the audio versions of the books of this project are simply incredible, they form the feeling, tension and experience of the book so elegantly ... This is exactly the case when it is better to hear once than to see the text.
By the way, the project initially attracted me personally with its free content, the texts of the book and their versions appeared for free on the site some time after the books went on sale. There was something strange and compelling about it and inspiring respect for the project even before it even got to the books themselves. Too bad it turned out to be marketing ploy, now on the site again everything is for money. Yes, I understand that the authors also need something and receive money for their work, but the unpleasant feeling that you have been “divorced” remains - they threw in a free sample, put them on, and now the money is shaking. But this refers to the ideological side of the issue. Listen to books (you can find free versions on the Internet), and only then decide whether they are good or not and whether they are worth buying for a collection.
Let me summarize once again - in my opinion (the view of a person who has shoveled mountains of science fiction), all the books of the project are quite high quality and worth the time spent on it.
Oh yes, one more plus: those who came across the project and showed curiosity now know who Nikolai and Lev Gumilyovs are, what Ethnogenesis and the idea of Passionarity are, and this, you see, is already quite a lot :glasses:.
Score: 10
I read Revolution, Blockade, Pirates, Pangea, Armageddon, Marusya, Bandits and some other separate novels. Each novel individually is not bad, there are simply excellent ones, but in general, the project did not work out.
The main reason is that nothing is clear with these figures and with these transparent ones. What are they, why? It seems that everyone is explaining something, but in a coherent world it all somehow does not add up, and therefore common idea no.
I did not expect any particularly philosophical insights initially, but still ... Stalker is much better in this regard, there is at least a unity of place and the original concept of the Zone. And here everything is very eclectic - the authors take the story apart and insert their plots into it, so the episodes are excellent, the NOVELS ARE NOT BAD, THE CYCLES ARE INDIFFERENT, BECAUSE THERE ARE NO INTERPRETABLE FINALS, AND THE SERIES IN THE RESULT IS ZERO.
Score: 4
well, let's start, the project "ethnogenesis" is primarily commercial and is aimed at the entertainment niche, especially without carrying a large semantic load (I hope this will be changed in subsequent books) the first book "Marusya" turned out to be rather ambiguous, it was written rather mediocrely and main character seemed rather silly that I wanted to hit her on the head so that at least something would appear there, but for some reason she won a pretty decent audience, and they were not only teenagers but also quite adult people, of course, the point here is the ease of reading (I read the book in about several hours) and in a plot similar to a modern TV series, many compare her with Bulychev's "Alice", although she did not stand nearby, it's just that people have not had enough of this for a long time.
The "blockade" of Benediktov, on the contrary, showed itself with better side IMHO, a crypto-historical plot, familiar personalities, and an interesting concept of writing. Definitely, the book turned out to be head and shoulders above Marusya.
as a result, the problem of the project is that its unevenness is either good or bad, wait for the Zorichs, they should raise (I hope) the bar, they promise to attract some other established writers
PS, reading for the most part the classics of science fiction and its masters, I enjoyed reading it, although the project should not be taken very seriously, although the ambitions are quite high
Score: 7
Perhaps I will present a list of what I remember from the series:
Billionaire: Strongly connected with Marusya, who pulls only because of a good audio version. But I think fans of conspiracy theories will like the adventures at the secret base of the Germans in modern times).
Blockade: at the level of a billionaire, the flesh of the flesh of the litserial and good as an introduction to it. Nothing special in my opinion. A team of psychics in the service of the Soviets.
Genghis Khan is again a connection with a billionaire, at least in the beginning. Might as well read it. There are some very interesting points.
Armageddon - zombieland. If you like the genre, then it’s quite possible to add Hackers 3 from this author here.
Not connected to the series directly, only through "figures". Basically you can read it.
Pronin Pirates On the one hand, not bad, but the further - the worse. Robbery of Spanish galleons by a ship in whose arsenal there are explosive nuclei is still interesting, and submarines are already something superfluous IMHO. Yes, and bundles of stupid silver figures too.
Kolodan Pangea I don't know about others, but I liked GG first of all with his harmonica. Still, I'll write down the pluses rather than the minuses of this book.
And finally, what I liked, what I can recommend for reading:
Chubaryan Hackers: this is the book because of which I began to read this series. You can say a gem. Very, very liked. And it's a pity that the author did not write the 3rd one, the sketches on it are very interesting. And it is a pity that he did not work on this outside of Ethnogenesis.
The 3rd book from Burnosov is not entirely bad ... it’s just that it’s absolutely not about Burnosov not having to agree to take it at all, he could have spent his energy on something else. End someone else's cycle - not best job for a generally good writer.
Dubrovin Detectives. The first for me is much better than the second, the story about the ripper is at the level of the first. Foggy London, a bit of mysticism and it turns out to be a very good book. I love this atmosphere, ever since I read the Bartimaeus trilogy. The scene of the second was not so inspiring.
Alimov Dragon Funny cat, although of course this is not the main thing. Otherwise - well, it doesn’t pull on a historical novel, but everything is quite nice. I read it because of the setting and the cool main characters. Including the cat, yes :)
It all started with the fact that a few years ago, the famous publisher Konstantin Rykov came up with an unexpected idea: what if several good writers - each for his own part - begin to put together a giant literary puzzle? Every writer will tell some interesting story, at first seemingly unrelated to the others. Odin writes a series of books about pirates caribbean, the other is about German saboteurs in besieged Leningrad, the third is about the near future, the fourth is about the distant. At first, there is nothing in common, except that each book tells about people who own some mysterious artifacts - metal figurines of animals that give their owner unique abilities, and each figurine has its own. But slowly the series of the project will begin to intertwine. Common characters will appear, riddles given in one book will find answers in another, and one day all these stories will come together in a mega-novel, which will answer many of the mysteries of the universe.
Such "interlacing" and diversity of the project turned into another of its unique side. If other projects are strictly tied to the genre, then "Ethnogenesis" allows its authors to experiment in almost all fantastic genres - from post-apocalyptic to teenage fiction, from harsh cyberpunk to romantic star opera. Therefore, almost every reader can find his favorite style in Ethnogenesis.
The project started in May 2009 with the book "Marusya" by Polina Voloshina and it was one of the most successful literary launches. Suffice it to say that today the story of “a girl with whom something constantly happens”, living in 2020, has been sold with a total circulation of more than three hundred thousand copies. 24 series of the project have been launched (9 of which have already been completed), the action of which takes place in all corners of the Earth (and not only), and the chronological length of the series is several million years - from the most distant past to the very distant future. The best science fiction writers of the country are working on the project, and the total circulation of books sold has exceeded one and a half million copies.
Project stages
Initially, since 2009, the creators of the project assumed that a total of 12 series of three books each would be released. These series are: Marusya, Blockade, Genghis Khan, Revolution, Billionaire, Sleepwalker, Armageddon, Dragon, Pirates, Hackers, Pangea, Sinners . These series make up Ethnogenesis-1, but gradually, with the advent of new authors (and the departure of some of the old ones), quite independent series began to be created, connected with others only by artifacts, one of the heroes or their ancestors / descendants. So in the summer of 2011, the publication of "Ethnogenesis-2" began, the first series of books in which: "Che Guevara", "Rome", "Hunters", "Napoleon", "Templars", "Shadows", "Mirrors", "Tyrants", "Tsunami", "Frankenstein", "Trap", "Detectives", "Eldorado" ...
Since August 2012 opened new project- Novels based on your favorite series. The novel is not a continuation of the series, but rather a side branch of the plot. The authors are given the opportunity to talk about what they could not write about within the framework of the plot of the book, and readers to learn more about their favorite characters and, perhaps, better understand the mysteries of Ethnogenesis. In early 2013, due to the collapse of the AST publishing concern, Ethnogenesis moved to the Arguments and Facts publishing house - AiF, and the concept of the project changed somewhat. Any of the series could contain any number of books for a complete description of what was conceived and the convergence of the puzzles. But it did not grow together, only 6 books were published, and Ethno returned to the AST publishing concern, which resumed work.
Alimov I. A
Igor Alimov
Series The Dragon
Director of the Center "Petersburg Oriental Studies", researcher at the Museum of Anthropology and Ethnography. Peter the Great (Kunstkamera) RAS, candidate of historical sciences, sinologist.
Igor Alexandrovich Alimov was born in 1964. In 1986 he graduated from the Oriental Faculty of St. Petersburg (then Leningrad and still named after A. A. Zhdanov) University (Department of Chinese Philology). The defense of the diploma took place in a tense atmosphere: the volume of work exceeded 400 pages, and the indefatigable desire to embrace the immensity contributed to it in the form of annoying mistakes. The author's opponent, the late Viktor Vasilievich Petrov, a man of the deepest, encyclopedic knowledge, brilliantly coped with a difficult task, in a forty-minute speech both praising and fairly and ruthlessly scolding the author.
In the same year, for the first time, he went as a translator to the People's Republic of China, where he stayed for a month instead of two years, conscientiously coordinating plans for the restoration of blast furnace and open-hearth enterprises in the cities of Anshan and Baotou. Blast furnaces and open-hearth furnaces were built in the PRC by our great country during the period of the first friendship; however, in 1986, even the Germans received a contract for their restoration. (There is absolutely no fault of I. A. Alimov in this.) I returned home with a firm feeling that the Chinese people are not at all the same as the teachers at the university said.
In 1987, he began working in the field of Chinese ethnography at the Museum of Anthropology and Ethnography. Peter the Great RAS as a trainee researcher. He discovered a lot of new things for himself, which he does not regret a bit. He translated and wrote vigorously, but almost all attempts to publish what had been done ran into mountains of obstacles, quite typical for those years. Wishing to develop science to the extreme, with a group of like-minded people he founded the Laboratory of Theory and History of Culture, which met quite successfully in various places in the central part of St. Petersburg and quietly prepared its works for publication. The efforts were crowned with some success: the studies of the members of the Laboratory saw the light in the collection “Man. Philosophy. Culture”, two issues of which (the last in two volumes) were published in Yekaterinburg.
Igor Alimov 90–91 spent in China as an intern at the Faculty of History of Peking University, where he understood everything about the Chinese people. This time is covered with legends and deserves a separate, detailed story, which, perhaps, will happen someday.
In 1992, stimulated by the desire to do something for St. Petersburg Oriental Studies, which was inevitably plunging into the abyss of perestroika, together with a group of like-minded people, he created the publishing house Center "Petersburg Oriental Studies". The beginning was laid by the first issue of the almanac "Petersburg Oriental Studies", which is currently a bibliographic rarity and generally a masterpiece of book publishing - a kind of monument to young enthusiasts who were armed with a 286th machine with a forty-megabyte disk and a wide dot-matrix printer and - no idea (except for an ardent desire, of course) about how books should be published.
There was a lot of ardent desire, and things slowly went on. Now, in 1999, we can safely say that the publishing house has taken place, has developed and has a well-deserved authority in its field. More information about the current state of affairs can be found in the relevant section.
As for the series, then in any! That is, nothing terrible will happen if you first read the "Blockade", and then took up the "Revolution". As for the books within the series, it's best to start with the first. For example, Marusya, and then Marusya-2. But to understand the general picture of "Ethnogenesis" you need to read all the books in the project.
Book release chronology:
1. Marusya. Book 1. Talisman of Immortality
2. Blockade. Book 1. Monster Hunt (Eagle Gaze)
3. Marusya. Book 2. Taiga quest
4. Billionaire. Book 1. Ice trap
5. Revolution. Book 1. Japanese policeman
6. Genghis Khan. Book 1. Lord of Fear
7. Somnambulist. Book 1. A star called the sun
8. Blockade. Book 2. Shadow of Siegfried
9. Billionaire. Book 2. The Arctic Gambit
10. Genghis Khan. Book 2
11. Dragon. Book 1. The heirs of the Yellow Emperor
12. Armageddon. Book 1. The Fall of America
13. Somnambulist. Book 2. The Other Side of the Moon
14. Pirates. Book 1. Demon Island
15. Armageddon. Book 2. Area 51
16. Genghis Khan. Book 3
17. Dragon. Book 2. Back to the Future
18. Marusya. Book 3
19. Blockade. Book 3
20. Pirates. Book 2. Spider Island
21. Hackers. Book 1. BASIC
22. Somnambulist. Book 3. Escape Through Time
23. Che Guevara. Book 1. Bolivian Grandfather
24. Pangea. Book 1. Land of the Giants
25. Armageddon. Book 3. Dungeons of Death
26. Pirates. Book 3. Moai Island
27. Rome. Book 1. The Last Legate
28. Dragon 3. Book 3. Sometimes they come back
29. Pangea. Book 2
30. Hunters. Book 1
31. Billionaire. Book 3. End game
32. Hackers. Book 2. Web
33. Che Guevara. Book 2. Brides of Chimorte
34. Napoleon. Book 1. The path to glory
35. Templars. Book 1. Phoenix Knight
36. Shadows. Book 1. Bestiary
37. Mirrors. Book 1. Masquerade
38. Tyrants. Book 1. Borgia
39. Hunters. Book 2. Adventurers
40. Tsunami. Book 1. Earthshakers
41. Detectives. Book 1. King of Thieves
42. Eldorado. Book 1. Gold and cocaine
43. Frankenstein. Book 1. Dead Army
44. Trap. Book 1. Shelf.
45. Templars. Book 2
46. Napoleon. Book 2. Become God
47. Tsunami. Book 2. The Milgram Knot
48. Hackers. Book 3. Endgame
49. Marusya. Gumilyov
50. Bandits. Red and White
51. Pirates. Dolphin hunting
52. Tyrants. Fear
53. Detectives. city of Ozo
54. Rostov. labyrinth
55. Bandits. liquidation
56. Game. Book 1. Serpent Island
57. Revolution. Book 2. Beginning
58. Balkans. Book one. Dracula
Series by duration
But keep in mind that in some books there are different time periods - the narration can be conducted on behalf of several heroes or the characters travel through time. Therefore, the given chronological order is only for the main storyline. And by no means all the series are over, rather the opposite ...
Pangea(~ 18 thousand years BC)
Rome(~ Year 9 NE)
Templars(1306 NE)
Balkans(1431-2012 NE)
tyrants(1488–1507)
El Dorado(~1515)
Pirates(16th–17th century NE)
Napoleon(late 18th century)
detectives(~1888)
The revolution(late 19th, early 20th century)
Hunters(early 20th century)
bandits(~1919–1920)
Blockade(~1942)
Genghis Khan(~1980)
Trap(~1991)
Shadows. Bestiary(~1999)
Tsunami(~1999)
hackers(~1998–2010)
Frankenstein(~2005)
Billionaire(~2008–2010)
Mirrors(~2009)
The Dragon(~2009)
Che Guevara(~2010–2011)
Rostov (2012)
Armageddon(2012–2014)
Marusya(~2020–2021)
somnambulist(mid 25th century NE)
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The times when the process of working on popular literary works was a secret with seven seals are over. Today, an indifferent audience can not only boo the author, but also take part in the conflict between the producers of their favorite spiritual food. An example of this is the scandal surrounding the Ethnogenesis project.
No matter what they say about "Ethnogenesis", at the level of the original concept, it has at least two serious advantages. Firstly, it was originally created as a project designed to exist in the conditions of a literary apocalypse - cryptohistorical books about magical items were supposed to be addressed almost primarily to those numerous young people who do not read any books at all. Secondly, the key point in the project has always been work on a clear production plan, involving the setting of certain tasks and their adequate implementation, and such a pragmatic approach was directly linked to the idea of literary quality.
If we talk about the extent to which these installations have been implemented (and to what extent they are being implemented right now), then it is necessary to distinguish between a few “basic” indisputable facts and everything else, including phenomena that cannot be unambiguously interpreted, subjective assessments, loud phrases and fan fiction. swearing.
The author of the idea and producer Konstantin Rykov managed to gather a relatively large team of authors, which at first was more or less permanent. In the original synopsis of Ethnogenesis, a remarkable space-time continuum was designated, which included different places in the Universe and eras far from each other. The series "Marusya", "Blockade", "Billionaire", "Genghis Khan", "Sleepwalker" and some others filled this continuum with objects and characters that quickly interested those very young people who do not read anything, and along with them many representatives of other population groups .
Many fans of "Ethnogenesis" were disappointed with the news that the series "Dragon", written by Igor Alimov, within the framework of the project will not be continued by the series "Mirror", which is written by the same author and which many have already perceived as an integral part general design. As far as one can understand, this came as a surprise to Alimov himself. Passions boiled on the Web, the leaders and coordinators of the project began to be accused of intrigues and voluntarism.
#(interviewcult)Another important author of Ethnogenesis, Sergei Volkov, who wrote Genghis Khan, Marusya-2 and Sleepwalker-3, but no longer participating in the project and now also dissatisfied with the leadership's policy, appeared in LiveJournal categorical entry: “It's a pity, but OUR" Ethnogenesis "- RIP. Now it's final." The meaning of this epitaph was that the so-called "Ethnogenesis-2" - a set of new series of the project written by new authors - does not correspond to the original plan and is not liked by readers. Volkov, as well as a certain part of the fan audience, was clearly upset by the “change of generations” of the authors within Ethnogenesis.
The high point of the crisis was the accusations against the editor of "Ethnogenesis" and the author of two "Marus" Polina Voloshina, in whom someone saw a suspicious "gray eminence", practicing voluntaristic editing and deciding the fate of the authors in secret.
To understand the situation, the VZGLYAD newspaper asked for comments from the participants in the conflict - Sergei Volkov and Polina Voloshina.
“It happened, let's say, some kind of squeezing me out of the project. I find it difficult to say what this is connected with, because the reader's interest in my texts is very large, - said Sergey Volkov. - As far as the general situation is concerned, here is how things stand. When "Ethnogenesis" began, a team of professionals worked in it - Kirill Benediktov, Yuri Burnosov, myself, Alexander Zorich, Igor Alimov, Igor Pronin and the author of the idea Konstantin Rykov. We thought of storylines general concept etc. And on this moment neither Zorich nor Burnosov participate in the project. They, like me, in some strange way, were gone in Ethnogenesis. Around the continuation of the Igor Alimov series "Dragon" there is some kind of incomprehensible controversy to me. On the other hand, new authors came to Ethnogenesis. These are talented guys, but they write their own new series, and the "Ethnogenesis", which we started two years ago, is in some kind of limbo. Readers are unhappy that the main series do not end, and at the same time many new ones begin. Polina Voloshina is now the editor of the Ethnogenesis project. She was very lucky - she got the opportunity to work on the same project with experienced professionals. She could learn literary skills from them, gain experience. Instead, she allows herself to edit the texts of some of them, change the layout of the plot, and also determine the publishing policy. I don't know how true this is from a business standpoint. It is enough to look at the circulation statistics of Ethnogenesis: recently they have fallen four times.”
Polina Voloshina sees the situation differently. “What happens in Ethnogenesis is what happens in any series - the composition of the authors changes,” she believes. - This is done so that “new blood”, new names, new readings appear. For fans of the old series, this may be perceived as some kind of unwanted intrusion. It's like in television series - if they replace some actor who is loved by the public, then the one who replaces him is taken by the audience with hostility. But then it quickly turns out that he is already loved just like his predecessor, because what matters is not how he looks, but what he does. If we don’t take those cases when people were specially “warmed up” by allegations that Ethnogenesis had deteriorated, then I’m not sure that the new series cause some kind of rejection among readers - they just get new stories. Maybe they're mad that we're not revisiting the old series yet, but there's a clear rule in the project that each story is limited to three books. As for the new books, they are no less popular than the old ones, and they are no worse. Moreover, I personally think that their quality is even higher, because it is important for their authors to express themselves, and they try very hard. The new series of "Ethnogenesis" are sold less, but this is simply due to the fact that now there are electronic books, which someone buys, and someone just takes from the Web. If “Genghis Khan” or “Marusya” are now released on paper, they will not be sold as they were before, because they will again be purchased in in electronic format. "Ethnogenesis" is indeed expanding in breadth, but we have realized this problem, and now all new books are tied to earlier ones. As for the dissatisfaction of some authors of the first call, a significant revision of their texts was required in cases where it was obvious that other people were involved in writing. It is not very good to resort to such a method, especially since you can always distinguish pieces written by a professional from what is done by a beginner from outside.
Summing up the discussions around "Ethnogenesis", Konstantin Rykov in the group
